All Rights Reserved. JavaScript is disabled. Roger. Please use the navigational links to explore our website. If the hole is blocked, the engine will stall. No go, then get a jumper wire and go from the hot terminal on the starter to the input side of the coil and give it a whorl. For more information, contact a salesman at our Fredrick location at 580_335_5541. Let us know what it turns out to be. While we are at it, I am going to replace all the wiring. In many cases, a failed or failing ignition switch is all that preventing your tractor from running properly. Allow the engine to cool completely. "image": { Thanks for telling why there was a different cap. Modern View Forum powered by phpBB 2001, 2005 phpBB Group. Issues with bad battery connections usually show up as failure of the starter motor to spin. Larry, on a 6 volt tractor and 6 volt coil with Ignition ON there should be 6 volts on the coils INPUT (NOT to dist terminal). I have an 07 1545 with the 72 flex deck and I have 6 belts on the deck. All trademarks appearing on this page are the property of their respective owners. Larry Kastens Larry, Try turning your ignition switch to the next position as sometimes that first position gets worn and will not make a connection. Welcome! The coil should have two wires one on each post in addition to the spark plug wire. $49.00. It should have a small vent hole on top that allows back pressure for proper fuel flow. 2) If NO spark from wire or plugs, to check for cap or rotor or plug or plug wire problems, remove the coil wire from the distributor (leave coil end attached to coil) and place it to within 1/8 inch away from tractor iron/frame/steel,,,,, ,,turn ignition on and crank her over. "interactionType": "https://schema.org/CommentAction", Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V. pulled the points and clean them and tried again, still no spark. Now when cranking and shut key off I get one spark. "publisher": { First of all I want to thank everyone who came to my rescue. SUCCESS! Try not compressing the break fully..or slowly release the break while trying to start. Does not have points. I have to disagree with Topsites on this one. then I checked the voltage from the coil to the points. Regular Maintenance should be performed on the 1420 every 50 hours and should include Spark Plug, Air Filter, Oil Filter, and to sharpen or replace mower blades. Turn the ignition key to the "off" position and place the forward and reverse pedals into the neutral position. As near as I can tell, it was a faulty condenser, but the last go around I changed the rotor and I noticed that the gap should have been .025 instead of .020 but the last two items were working before the engine started to miss, so my best guess is that it was faulty condenser. It will take awhile as I will need to put it all back together. That's the beakerless solid state ignition not the coil ignition. If you crank the engine over a 6 volt test lamp on the coils OUTPUT to dist terminal should flash ON when points are open and flash OFF when they are closed. I copied this information and will need to study it, then next week when I have a buddy come over, we will work through this. I have 12 V on the positive side of the coil (with or without the key on). I just went out there half our ago. "interactionStatistic": { Shut it off, let sit a minute, fired right back up. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. John Deere 1420 - no power. { No, it doesnt. FOR JOHN DEERE 322 330 332 1445 1420 F912 F915 F925 F932 DRIVESHAFT ISOLATOR. Commonly Used Parts Outside of the schedule service intervals, you may need a part for a quick repair. Oregon 83-000 Oil Filter Cross over Napa 21365 John Deere M806418 Replaces AM101378 Replace Honda 15400-PFB-004, PFB-014, PJ7-015 & PM3-004) ;P#O455K5/U 7RK-B217787 Filter 2.5" X 2.5" Cross over to Napa 21365 John Deere M806418 Replaces AM101378 This will John Deere Equipment 322, 330, 332, 355D, 430, 455, GX355, X495, X595, X595SE, X740, X744, X748, X749, X750, Problems still exists- I get no spark when the key is in the start position but I get spark in the run position. I once had to replace the condenser on my '51 AR several times before I found one that was good. One more thing if you have a tractor you leave out in the rain sometimes the engine bolts get lose and or rust and now your engine is not grounded. Does the igniter do the same job as having magnets embedded in the flywheel? This is a beast of a mowing machine. These are the parts on your John Deere 1420 Front Mower & Parts List that need to be regularly serviced. The fuel pump works and both 15 amp fuses are good. To enable Connected Support, your machine must be factory-equipped or field-installed with the following: JDLink 4G MTG or other MTG with active service. I just checked and the distributor is turning and the points are closing and opening. You have no items in your shopping cart. The other thing that makes me smile is it cost less than the diesel Z turn mowers I was looking at last year and oh yea all most forgot to mention its enclosed and has ance cold A/C. 737 hours from new. MTG/JDLink-Equipped Machine*. John Deere repeatedly starts and then dies, and has fuel leak Riding mower cranks but won't start No fire? Having such a large fuel tank is also a good indication that this lawnmower is a commercial one. Thanks, I ended up buying both kinds of caps. Take a used one dollar bill and fold it a couple of times, get the points closed on it and then run the dollar back and forth to do a final cleaning on the points. Condenser may or may not be the problem. Shipping Policy | "@type": "ImageObject", It was a good learning experience. View Details. Guess what, this one was bought at Napa. JavaScript is disabled. What wire is the kill wire? Tim That is the only two bubba fixes that has worked on my 420. Also, check to see that the points are closing. It's a 1420 front mount mower with 3 cylinder gas engine. Let us know what it turns out to be. What sounded like a misfire was not what is going on. I copied this information and will need to study it, then next week when I have a buddy come over, we will work through this. Copyright Leaf Group Ltd. // Leaf Group Lifestyle. "author": { That is the only two bubba fixes that has worked on my 420. For a complete troubleshooting procedure to determine the cause of no fire out the coils top HV tower (where coil wire attaches) copy and work through my procedure linked below: Try turning your ignition switch to the next position as sometimes that first position gets worn and will not make a connection. 1169.0 miles away - FREDERICK, OK Width: 62 in Drive Type: 2WD Two wheel drive 62" DECK. Took some head scratching to figure out he had the wrong cap on it ! I drove it to the shop. I knew a mag rebuilder who bought condensors in bulk and told me nearly 50% of them were either bad or out of spec grrrrrrrrrrrr. I have no spark. "height": 57 Also, check to see that the points are closing. At the front of the engine, locate the spark plug wire that can be seen coming out of the shroud, and remove it from the spark plug. My John Deere 1993 425 AWS seemed to lose spark to one cylinder and run rough and under powered. Careers Sponsorships | The ignition module converts the 12 volts from the battery to a high voltage charge and directs it to the correct spark plugs in the correct order in the case of a John Deere V-twin engine lawn tractor with two spark plugs. Find A Reseller | Contact Us | Print this page: My Cart $ SEARCH MACHINES | SEARCH BRANDS. It will take awhile as I will need to put it all back together. It has good compression but no spark is reaching the spark plugs. Thanks ftorleans1 Registered Joined Jul 11, 2009 432 Posts After spraying it with the cleaning product, you may reassemble the components and let the spray do the job while your lawnmower is working. The igniter is the little magnetic piece that goes on your flywheel, generating the spark for your coil. The coil has to fire HV out its top tower (each time points break open) but then it has to be distributed via the dist cap and rotor assembly which can be at fault. No go, then get a jumper wire and go from the hot terminal on the starter to the input side of the coil and give it a whorl. This normal? Repairing them and going to see were that gets me. Larry, most times Christmas does not come early, but. Generally, they have better parts than the average chain store. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. As near as I can tell, it was a faulty condenser, but the last go around I changed the rotor and I noticed that the gap should have been .025 instead of .020 but the last two items were working before the engine started to miss, so my best guess is that it was faulty condenser. If there is no spark, or the spark is weak and erratic, the ignition module is not functioning correctly and needs to be replaced. Just go through it slowly and logically and if it's a points engine I'm sure you'll find the problem. Check wires are connected and secure to switches. I put pressure on wires with zip ties and it ran fine. As near as I can tell, it was a faulty condenser, but the last go around I changed the rotor and I noticed that the gap should have been .025 instead of .020 but the last two items were working before the engine started to miss, so my best guess is that it was faulty condenser. The part costs $72 but we have only had to replace two in 19 years. Thanks, I ended up buying both kinds of caps. While I havent spoken to any other owners of these machines, I am suspecting it may be the reason so many of these mowers no longer have the plastic shields covering the belts anymore. If none of that works now try looking into coil, magnetos etc.. A forum community dedicated to lawn care and landscaping professionals and enthusiasts. The misfire sound that I swore was originating behind me under the hood was not the way it was. Testimonials | }. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. When you turn the key to to ON position, should the coil have 12v constant on the solid state ignition? You must log in or register to reply here. What you need to get connected. John Deere Battery Hold Down Strap - MT4258. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Just now tried to start. And I assume it is grounded to kill? It was a good learning experience. my john deere x320 had no spark and i had the coils replaced and still had no spark then i pulled the kill wire off and it started then i put it back on and it died John Deere Original Equipment Electronic Control Unit #AM141075https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CAXKV2M/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2F8KAB7F15GZF\u0026psc=1taryl fixes all YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2Cd9kKYXFakV7ChvU_rjKw Ignition Coil for Kawasaki FH601V https://www.amazon.com/SeekPro-21171-0745-21171-0742-21171-0713-52005-2139/dp/B07TD615YL/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=kawasaki+fh661v-cs05+coils\u0026qid=1565453851\u0026s=lawn-garden\u0026sr=1-1 Did you clean the oil off the new points ? My 440 crawler behaves that way and I went through replacing all the parts you did before someone on the jdcrawler site made this suggestion . "@id":"https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=jd&th=640337", Connect the spark plug boot to a spark tester. After sitting a bit it did not run. Clean the points, even if they are new. Can't see one on the block. Turn the adjustment screw on the spark tester to 4.2 mm or 0.166 inches. 2007 John Deere 1420 . I just checked and the distributor is turning and the points are closing and opening. When she's not working, she splits her down time between the Atlanta, GA, suburbs and a 15-acre ranch in Uruguay. Replaced plugs and #1 coil. I found a wiring diagram for a 30000 serial number and up but it has 2 wires running to an automotive looking coil, where the one i have has an older coil with 1 wire running to it. Elyria, Ohio 44035. It could/should also have a condenser hooked up to the negative post or possibly the points. Good to know. Thanks again for the diagram. Have a JD GX345 with 270 hours on it and it would not start. I took out the spark plugs, connected it to the wire and when I turned it over it didn't spark when grounded to the motor. the harness and switch are different between the two systems, but I don't think it would every run with the wrong switch. I have been having trouble with my John Deere 1020 Type 14R1C Serial 066038T. "logo": { 84-420 with 60" deck, 85 316, 5-212's, STX38, 3 REAR ENGINE DEERES, 140 H1 basket case, 50 cart, 43 front blade, 43 center blade, 2-31 tillers Brinly disc and 3 - 10" sleeve hitch plows, 2 sleeve hitches, 3 set's rear weights, front weights, 4' rear sleeve hitch blade, 5 - 37A blowers and more Garden Mark, MTD and Yardman mowers/tractors :usa: Took some head scratching to figure out he had the wrong cap on it ! My experience has been that its usually the points. "@type": "ImageObject", You must first ensure that your spark plug is not faulty before testing your ignition module. The mower starts and runs for about 10 minutes then it just dies. To be honest, it is not my machine but a neighbor here is town. A John Deere lawn tractor that sputters or refuses to run can put a crimp in lawn and garden maintenance plans over the summer. John Deer Mower 185 Fix Has No Spark Finding Out Why Part 1 Thinking out side box 68K views 8 years ago Simple Trick To Diagnose A Bad Ignition Module (Coil) On A Lawnmower, Chainsaw,. Then proceed toward taking apart the filter, fuel line, and spark plug. }, I have 6.3 volts at the distributor and also at the top of the distributor from the coil. Matt, I'll send you a copy tomorrow of the diagram. I just use an on and off switch. 016785m is the tractor serial number. Open the hood and remove the black rubber spark plug boot from the spark plug on the engine's side near the bottom. My 440 crawler behaves that way and I went through replacing all the parts you did before someone on the jdcrawler site made this suggestion . So thankful for the past reviews for this $20 part. Press the top wire down to touch the feeler gauge, then remove the gauge. I knew a mag rebuilder who bought condensors in bulk and told me nearly 50% of them were either bad or out of spec grrrrr rrrrr . Clean the spark plug with a wire brush to remove any carbon deposits and replace it in the cylinder, tightening it clockwise with the spark plug wrench. 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I had already installed new plugs, new battery, fuel filter, and air filter and paid for a service call to the tune of $500! Is your new cap identical to the old cap? lol. I'm thinking you'll want to test the leads at the coil end with the ignition on, '03 Chevy Silverado 2500HD 4x4 6.0L Utility Truck. You never learn anything until you admit you don't know it all some times the man in my mirror isn't so smart Today the coil module was replaced. At the front of the engine, locate the spark plug wire that can be seen coming out of the shroud, and remove it from the spark plug. I will be 80 next month but one never gets too old to learn. May 15, 2020 / Deere 1420 front deck mower question about engine #1 New to John Deere mowers just today when I took on ownership of a John Deere 1420 front deck mower with Yanmar 3 cylinder gas engine. 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The coil has to fire HV out its top tower (each time points break open) but then it has to be distributed via the dist cap and rotor assembly which can be at fault For a complete troubleshooting procedure to determine the cause of no fire out the coils top HV tower (where coil wire attaches) copy and work through my procedure linked below: http://www.ytmag.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=farmall&th=5745 John T Larry, on a 6 volt tractor and 6 volt coil with Ignition ON there should be 6 volts on the coils INPUT (NOT to dist terminal) With good working points CLOSED there should be near zero volts on the coils small OUTPUT (to dist) terminal With good working points OPEN there should be 6 volts on the coils small OUTPUT (to dist) terminal If you crank the engine over a 6 volt test lamp on the coils OUTPUT to dist terminal should flash ON when points are open and flash OFF when they are closed. Sputters or refuses to run can put a crimp in lawn and garden maintenance plans over summer... 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