Trying to make it seem like everything on the Internet is fake news and the only ones you can trust are the major news stations. []. Telescope. The Lucifer Telescope, Sacred Apache Land & the Vatican Enjoy this podcast, and so much more Podcasts are available without a subscription, 100% free. The mission of VATT is displayed prominently outside the entrance in Latin and in English indoors. Debra Krol reports on Indigenous communities at the confluence of climate, culture and commerce in Arizona and the Intermountain West. )), According to an online article by Lee Alen earlier this year, prior to the building the Vatican Observatory group claimed that Mount Graham could not be a sacred site due to its lack of religious shrines. Apaches and other Native peoples must now obtain a permit to conduct ceremonies in the forest, according to a forest spokesperson. Mount Graham was the free land of the San Carlos Apache, and remained on their reservation until the United States Federal Government claimed it it 1872. Heres a simpler question. Mount Graham threatens science without humanity. Minnesota Daily, October 1, 2002. Lucifer was the light bearer not the morning star, unless youre reading a Bible version from corrupt manuscripts. Im curious, why would the Vatican name the telescope Lucifer? Your email address will not be published. Then the information somehow degraded and the slur was born: Vatican astronomers are supposedly friends with Lucifer Was there an ulterior motive behind this? Hence, in 1987 the Vatican Observatory Foundation was established. (Source). Yet in response to the ASC's claims of sacred land, Father George Coyne (a Jesuit astronomer who was the director of the Vatican Observatory) wrote, "We are not convinced by any of the arguments thus far presented that Mt. splendors intolerable blinds feeble, Teachers to the New Up and Coming Astronomers, The Vatican. Sign up for Storyblocks at http://storyblocks.com/haiGet a Half as Interesting t-shirt: https://standard.tv/collections/half-as-interesting Suggest a video: . Write to the following universities to urge them not to participate in the UA telescope project. (LogOut/ by Greg Szymanski, JD, ArcticBeacon.com, April 23, 2010 Published here: Thursday, April 29, 2010 @ 5:10 AM University of Arizona, Vatican and Jesuits Name New Telescope 'Lucifer' Housed at Mt. Ive also talked to many who could share stories of the ancient laws which spiritually govern holy areas. UA responded by establishing a rule by which the Apache must request permission in writing 48 hours prior to entry and reveal prayer locations and times in order to obtain a permit to pray on the mountain. But it never says it was specifically because of pride (as the King of Babel), or trying to be like HaShem (as the King of Babel). Yes, Peter, Jesus IS the Morningstar and the Light of the world. First, somebody reported that an instrument called Lucifer was installed on Mt Graham. The Vatican Observatory shares space (no pun intended) with other organizations and groups. On this mountain is a great life-giving force. Due to Arizona's high elevation and clear skies, the VATT is just one among dozens of telescopes located in the state; as the Vatican Observatory website reports, Arizona is "where sky conditions are among the best in the world, and . The Fight for Dzil Nchaa Si An, Mt. The church held most knowledge in books which had laboriously been handwritten by priests until then. Placing unauthorized or unwelcomed whatever on Indian sacred ground, like this telescope, or even taking any sort of sacred symbols, down to the rocks and dirt, without permission or a blessing to do so, could be a nightmare, a real life story for a Dan Brown novel and may add to the growing issues facing the Catholic Church. (Source). News accounts at the time reported that Apache tribal leaders said they were given insufficient notification of the project. The how is best answered by the one that designed the whole mechanism and set them on a path. <, Allen, Lee. Theres no way that were going to allow this to be done," people said. The University of Arizona built an underground 25,000-volt power line, electrifying the sacred mountain to the great distress of the Apache. Device and its purpose, read my original article below, originally posted on June 20, 2016. (Source). Graham in Arizona to mount a telescope there? The Apache regard the Mt. Theyve admitted themselves, however, that there is no other basis, besides the tradition of the early Fathers and later Catholic Commentators, for interpreting Isa 14:12 as an address to hasatan! L.U.C.I.F.E.R., which stands for Large Binocular Telescope Near-infrared Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research, is a chilled instrument attached to a telescope in Arizona. Reach Krolat debra.krol@azcentral.com or at 602-444-8490. Among other endangered species in the area is the Mount Graham Red Squirrel, which is found nowhere else in the world. The planned Vatican telescope was part of an ambitious $200 million proposal from the University of Arizona to create Mount Graham International Observatory with 13 telescopes located on. The Vatican Observatory Research Group (VORG) operates the 1.8m Alice P. Lennon Telescope with its Thomas J. Bannan Astrophysics Facility, known together as the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope. Luk 10:18 And He said to them, I saw Satan falling out of the heaven as lightning. "There are so many commodities and useful resources in these lands. Possibly! Northern Arizona News, 2 Feb. 2011. Where does it say the sun and moon hover, or whose research are you questioning? For the Apache in Arizona, one of these sacred places is Mount Graham: this place is called Dzil Nchaa Si An (Big Seated Mountain) and is mentioned in 32 of the sacred songs . Photo by David Harvey / National Science Foundation Now do you see why the Pope who has been caught worshiping Satan has a telescope named "Lucifer" pointing towards that Nebula? Ive been to Indian sacred grounds and experienced a few situations to influence my belief. These early traditions of the Observatory reached their climax in the mid-nineteenth century with research conducted at the Roman College by the famous Jesuit, Father Angelo Secchi, the first to classify stars according to their spectra. Many people have not paid much attention to the ancient laws. In 1997 the University of Arizona requested that all Apache's must apply for permission to pray 48 hours in advance. A few things worth noting before we start: Lucifer is never directly or indirectly called Satan, nor is the word Satan ever found in Isaiah 14. MGIO is a division of Steward Observatory, the research arm for the Department of Astronomy at the University of Arizona . 03 Nov. 2012. ..until the curtain is lifted, the mirror removed, and the smoke clears This western view is very common, because fails to understand the San Carlos Apaches understanding of the land as being sacred for its environmental and historical reasons. Quote: They view the mountain as the embodiment of spiritual energy rather than as a specific place. The mountain has ancient, undisturbed burials, as well as being a source for medicinal plants and a location for ceremonies. Public events include our Monday Night Lecture Series, world-reknowned Astronomy Camp and Mt Lemmon Sky Center. In 1984, the University of Arizona and the Vatican selected Mount Graham as a site for a complex of 18 telescopes. It's located in an isolated part of southeastern Arizona several miles outside of Tucson, the nearest large city. Birney, Mt. Back in 2010, the University of Arizona, . Not only was this constructed, with great objection by the Apache Nation, on sacred ground, but left everyone with zero explanation as to naming it Lucifer! Proper names are transliterated NOT translated. He mathematically proved it. This requirement rankles many, including former San Carlos Apache Chairman and Native rights advocate Wendsler Nosie. They controlled the information content, the scientists of astronomy were controlled by both the Vatican, as evidenced by Copernicus becoming a Roman Catholic priest in his later days, and the Royal Society of London, owned by the Crown of Engalnd. This decision sparked a controversy of science, religion, and environment. President Ulysses S. Grant, weary after the horrors of the Civil War, sent envoys to negotiate with the bands. Another group installed a telescope it nicknamed Lucifer. And yes, its named for the Devil, whose name itself means morning star [and which] happens to be right next to the Vatican Observatory on Mt. As co-director of the working group for science and epistemology George Coyne, S.J., Director of the Vatican Observatory, initiated a series of research publications entitled, STUDI GALILEIANI. bears the Light, and with its Graham in Arizona to mount a telescope there? The Apache regard the Mt. The telescope's official name is the Alice P. Lennon Telescope The design of the device allows for extremely sharp levels of foc What Is the Vatican Telescope Looking For? "This is a story of light pollution and how it persecutes poor astronomers." In the 1930s, Pope Pius XI relocated the Observatory to . Graham, critics wonder are the 'evil ones' planning a staged end times scenario By Greg Szymanski, JD April 23, 2010 The University of Arizona, together with the Vatican and Jesuit Order, announced today it named its newest high-powered telescopic instrument 'Lucifer'. A whole Luciferian Religion (the worship of self and satan) has sprung off a Christian error! The Vaticans latest .The L.U.C.I.F.E.R. The director of the Vaticans Observatory, George Coyne, wrote that efforts to protect Mount Graham consist of a kind of environmentalism and a religiosity to which I cannot subscribe and which must be suppressed with all the force that we can muster.. So please dont believe these flat earth people. </p> <p>To the Apache the ecology of the area is what makes the land sacred and it is not related to the western idea of a physical shrine. The fact that this is a sacred place for the Apache was not taken into consideration. The Book of proverbs emphatically shows that ones wisdom is dictated by their ability to learn from mistakes, make corrections, and be corrected, not the inability to make mistakes and/or be corrected. Sacred Apache land 'on death row' in standoff with foreign mining titans Tribal members in Arizona are fighting to protect a piece of land they consider their "Mount Sinai." Apaches fight. In addition the director of the Vatican Observatory claimed he was unable to find any authentic Apache who believed the mountain to be sacred, and who could prove the history of the mountains sacredness in any other form than orally. Web. In reaction to the Director of the Vatican Observatorys claim members of the San Carlos Apache residing in the area surrounding Mount Graham stated that, the construction of the telescope constituted a profound disrespect for a cherished feature of their original homeland and a violation of traditional religious beliefs., (Telescope construction on the summit of Mount Graham, 1992. The NT does give us an image of hasatan being cast out of Heaven no doubt about that. In a news report for NativeAmericansNetroots.net a member of the Mount Graham Coalition, Freathersone, states. Due observatories prolonged struggle to obtain a new permit, and the rise in support from governmental groups, environmental groups, and the Apache people themselves this may be one struggle for sacred land that is not lost. It is noted on the website that its official abbreviation has been changed to LUCI. That's right $87 million. Graham. (Photo by Genevieve Clayton) (DiCosola, Maria. Reasons to Doubt the Earth is Truly a Sphere, NY Times: Vatican Science Panel Told By Pope Galileo Was Right. Strange for an organization who was adamant of a geocentric universe. Vatican City is the smallest country in the world. Below are links to the optical and instrument specifications to assist observers. At nearly the same exact time, in 1609, Galileo Galilei built his first telescope by learning how to grind his own glass to make his star viewer. Its a telescope built by the Max Planck Institute for extraterrestrial physics and according to their website it stands for LBT Near Infrared Spectroscopic Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research. Design [ edit] How can they shift is your question. 2.) That's where we find peace and comfort to pray in our quiet way.". Find telescopes and instruments, telescope time applications, staff and mountain contacts, and faculty and staff scientific interests. Graham complex came to be and examine some of the Vatican's contributions. This ironic conflict pits the Vatican against Apache spiritual leaders, and astronomers against biologists. 4.) VATT is part of the Mount Graham International Observatory and is operated by the Vatican Observatory, one of the oldest astronomical research institutions in the world, in partnership with The University of Arizona . The area in question is administered by the U.S. Forest Service. In addition there is a unique meteorite collection from which a knowledge of the early history of the solar system is being derived. (LogOut/ Prior to the construction of the Vatican Observatory, Mount Graham was one of the last untouched monuments that embodied sacred energy for the San Carlos Apache. Prior to the appeal, congress had passed an act that exemplified the telescope project from the National Environmental Policy Act and the Endangered Species Act, thus resulting in the failure to immediately and permanently halt the telescope project. Also why do they refuse to allow access to what is most probably the largest collection of ancient writings books tablets etc. 1.) An overview of the Oak Flat campground, Saturday, Feb. 27, 2021, near Superior, Arizona. LUCIFER Built On Sacred Indian Burial Grounds. The officially sanctioned removal of the Apaches holy mountain from Apache control was complete. Mount Graham is known to the San Carlos Apache as Dzil ncha si an. This link is crucial to understanding how 500 years of a massive lie can be perpd through the Vatican, Freemasons and NASA. Firstly, what causes anything to hover? Could there be more to this story? The fact is, though hasatan did fall from Heaven, we dont know what sin caused this fall; and we have subconsciously accepted philosophies about hasatan, which dont actually reflect the Biblical account, rather, the tradition of man! Coincidently, the Latin word Lucifer has the meaning of morning star, and is defined as the following on the Google online dictionary: morning star: a planet (usually Venus) seen just before sunrise in the eastern sky. Indigenous worldviews, values and sacred places strengthen the earths biological and cultural diversity, in distribution: standing on sacred ground, Mount Graham threatens science without humanity. The illusion created, connivingly convincing, has entranced the worlds population into blindly believing a maleficent myth. Mount Graham was one of the first parcels to be placed in the public domain. Et oui, il porte le nom du diable, dont le nom en fait signifie toile du matin [et qui] se trouve tre justement ct de lObservatoire du Vatican sur le mont Graham Tucson . Pray for Arizonas Mount Graham During National Sacred Places Prayer Days. Indian Country Today Media Network.com. star plain and simple. This action set the stage for conflict a century later. and mysterious name to give to the Further Chanan you fail to address the thought of the article; which is why an institute or cult church etc that persecuted individuals just for bringing up ideas contrary to the bulsht that they wouldve had the masses believe. Nearly all major telescopes in use (including the Hubble Space Telescope) are reflecting telescopes. TOPICS: catholic church lucifer mt. - The rugged patch of land known as Oak Flat sits in the Tonto National Forest. Mount Graham, the colonial name for Dzi Nchaa Si'an, was part of the San Carlos Apache Reservation until 1873, when the federal government seized it by presidential executive order, deeming it. UA lawyers also argue that they are exempt from the National Historic Preservation Act (NHPA) and any other cultural or environmental law that would apply to them. They do shift, we know this from simple observation. In 1997, an Apache man was arrested for trespassing on the site while trying to pray. Web. A key to understanding how long the myth of a global heliocentric, agnostic, universe has been perpetuated on all is to understand how long and deep the Vatican has been involved with observing the heavens all the way back to Copernicus, (who himself became a catholic priest in the last years of his life and studied cannon law). Vatican builds a giant telescope and names it ''LUCIFER'' The Vatican, the Jesuits and the University of Arizona, unveiled a new telescope centered upon Apache sacred ground, on Mount Graham, in Arizona. New technology developed by Roger Angel and colleagues at the Steward Observatory offered significant promise for developing a more powerful telescope at considerable cost savings. This federally-protected area is listed on the National Register of Historic Places, and features a National Forest Service public campground. Settler complaints that they would have no access to copper, silver, farmlands with water and timber resulted in the erosion of Apache lands and by the time the final cuts were made, Apache peoples possessed only 25% of what they had negotiated. National Optical Astronomy Observatory. It is also a landscape of enormous biological diversity, home to the endangered Mount Graham red squirrel. The Vatican Observatory's research group in Arizona shares space with other organizations. The sun and moon are suspended by magnetism and they were originally created and set in motion as part of a big clock-like feature by a creator, just as many ancient cultures and religious tenants profess. A good place to start if you want to become an undergrad major or grad student, or need to find our schedule of classes. Graham, critics wonder are the 'evil ones' planning a staged end times scenario The University of Arizona, together with the Vatican and Jesuit Order, announced But you cant even pull an example of convex water out of that hat Seriously. To get around the legal barriers of the American Indian Religious Freedoms Act, the University hired a lobbying firm to put pressure on Congress . AZ International Auto Show & New Car Buyer's Guide 2020 Model Year, 1986 draft environmental impact statement, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. A full-motion simulator takes guests on a ride past Mt. The Vatican, which has invested in the project, challenged the sacredness of the mountain based on the lack of structures or objects. FREIstaatliche Religionsgemeinschaft LichtlanD, LichtlanD. Welch said that in all, about 15 million acres were carved out of the public domain to be designated Apache lands. With the environmental and cultural concerns circumvented, UA proceeded to ignore and discredit the San Carlos Apache's claim to the mountain as a sacred place. The Vatican, the Jesuits and the University of Arizona, unveiled a new telescope centered upon Apache sacred ground, on Mount Graham, in Arizona. Research results are published in international journals. Each of the two telescopes is equipped with three single beam instruments: a prime focus camera, an optical spectrograph (MODS), and a near-infrared instrument (LUCI, formerly LUCIFER). Well, brace yourself, because we are going expose this myth for what it is! An international consortium of astronomers composed of the Vatican, the Arcetri of Italy and the Max Planck Institute of Germany led by the University of Arizona has proposed multiple telescopes in the old-growth forest summit of Mr. Graham. Through owning all of the information coming from the heavens, along with NASA, they been able to steer and control the narratives that we all learn about what is, and has been going on in our universe. In 1852, the U.S. and "the Apache Nation of Indians" signed the Treaty of Santa Fe, said John Welch, a professor at Simon Fraser University and head of landscape and site protection programs at Archaeology Southwest. At the exact era that science was allegedly replacing the Vaticans teachings that the Earth was the center of the universe and solar system, the Roman Catholic church was planning to build the very first large observatories of the heavens. The Biden administration has put the brakes on a controversial land exchange that would have given a sacred Native American site to a multinational mining company by 11 March.. Parts of the . (RNS) In what they call a "holy war" to save their sacred site in Arizona known as Oak Flat, the Apache people have gathered in prayer with other Native American tribes, even those they've. And the story goes that Copernicus waited until on his death-bed before publishing the work that changed everything we knew about our relation to the universe, On the Revolutions of the Celestial Spheres. In fact, several pontifical observatories were established in Rome, including the Observatory of the Roman College, the Observatory on the Capitoline Hill and the Specola Vaticana (or Vatican Observatory). Lucifer was named by German academic astronomers a separate telescope from the VATT Observatory and separate scientific observations. The verse they cited, which allegedly corresponds with Isa 14:12, Luke 10:18, does not quote Isa 14:12, nor does it say Lucifer, Haylel, or any of the like. Interestingly, theres a documentary about Chernobyl nuclear disaster and the prophecy. In the early 1980s, the University of Arizona and the Vatican selected Mount Graham as the preferred site for a huge observatory with up to 20 telescopes. The Catholic Encyclopedia, claims it to have a deeper significance; hence this permits them to apply it to hasatan, even though it contradicts the context of the passage. **** LUCIFER Built On Sacred Indian Burial Grounds Many of us came to accept the idea that Lucifer was hasatan (satan) long before ever reading the one verse in Isa 14:12, the only place in the Bible which mentions Lucifer. However, Ohio State and Notre Dame have joined the project (selling viewing time at $30,000/night) and now the University of Minnesota and the University of Virginia are considering investing in the project. If you want to learn more about the Vatican's L.U.C.I.F.E.R. OAK . Graham to tour the solar system. I KNOW that. From that time and with some degree of continuity the Holy See has manifested an interest in and support for astronomical research. It was because we were moving as well as the planets. Telescope. ! Although this statement may be true, the San Carlos Apache are not alone in their fight to protect their sacred land. Mount Graham is one of the four sacred mountains of the Apache people. Many of us came to accept the idea that Lucifer was hasatan long before ever reading the one verse in Isa 14:12, the only place in the Bible which mentions Lucifer. The Lucifer Telescope, Sacred Apache Land & the Vatican - Jan 18, 2023. 91-1350 PHXM WPC, April 6, 1992.). Mount Graham was the free land . The spiritual value of Mount Graham to the Apache was not considered. Its just fits perfectly whole Lucifer propaganda. Doubt it Showing this error, however, reveals the fallible nature of many of these self-proclaimed Messiahs and Priests and sends a humbling blow to the heart of their followers. One of those groups installed a telescope and briefly nicknamed one of its attachments "Lucifer" in. As of 1965 the Mount Graham Red Squirrel was believed to have been extinct. http://abell.as.arizona.edu/%7Elbtsci/Instruments/LUCIFER/Documents/LUCIFER_UM_1.1.pdf"]http://abell.as.arizona.edu/~lbtsci/Instruments/LUCIFER/Documents/LUCIFER_UM_1.1.pdf, http://abell.as.arizona.edu/%7Elbtsci/Instruments/LUCIFER/lucifer.html"]http://abell.as.arizona.edu/~lbtsci/Instruments/LUCIFER/lucifer.html, http://thirdsecret.org/content.php?153-Benedict-XVI-build-the-throne-of-Satan. Posted By: Steve Allen January 14, 2016. The Vatican Observatory does not own each piece of equipment, nor can it give official names or nicknames to things it does not own. We serve this community, operating and maintaining facilities at the remote observing site . Coverage of Indigenous issues at the intersection of climate, culture and commerce is supported by the Catena Foundation and the Water Funder Initiative. A 1986 draft environmental impact statement developed by the Forest Service said archaeological sites were detected within the observatory area, and that the most appropriate treatment of these sites must be determined in consultation with the State Historic Preservation Officer and the Advisory Council on Historic Preservation. The Forest Service also said, Presently no known impact on Native American religious use exists.. Despite this proliferation, printing centres soon emerged; thus, one third of the Italian printers published in. The largest of the telescopes, named the Columbus telescope was completed in 1995, on Mount Graham. Only fools are not subject to correction and reproof. Get personalized recommendations, and learn where to watch across hundreds of streaming providers. One of Arizona's "Sky Islands," a sacred place to Apaches, has been damaged by development and a controversial observatory. "When the white people, the non-Indians, invaded, they assumed the 'moral authority' versus the 'treacherous savage Apaches,'" Riley said. The Vatican Observatory Research Group (VORG) operates the 1.8m Alice P. Lennon Telescope with its Thomas J. Bannan Astrophysics Facility, known together as the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope. This was simple for us though because no one here claims to be infallible, where Biblical knowledge is concerned; and we are constantly adjusting and perfecting our knowledge. So we are indoctrinated, and by college no less. When I also read, Jesuit Father George Coyne, director of the Vatican Observatory, indicated he could not find an authentic Apache who thought the mountain was sacred. Nevertheless, Congress approved the construction plan. "Apache Tribe Distressed by Privatization of Dacred Land." Arizona Daily Star.11 December 2014. Baboquivari Peak. The Vatican works hand in glove with NASA and major universities. It wasnt until 1822, the Congregation of the Holy Office removed the prohibition on the publication of books treating of the earths motion in accordance with modern astronomy and Pope Pius VII ratified the decision: The most excellent [cardinals] have decreed that there must be no denial, by the present or by future Masters of the Sacred Apostolic Palace, of permission to print and to publish works which treat of the mobility of the earth and of the immobility of the sun, according to the common opinion of modern astronomers, as long as there are no other contrary indications, on the basis of the decrees of the Sacred Congregation of the Index of 1757 and of this Supreme [Holy Office] of 1820; and that those who would show themselves to be reluctant or would disobey, should be forced under punishments at the choice of [this] Sacred Congregation, with derogation of [their] claimed privileges, where necessary. What is to become of these state treasures is anyone's guess. Graham in Arizona. Jim Loudon Observatory. The Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope (VATT) is located on Mt. Would the Wormwood star be involved? The site sits ab. Father Coyne stated that to convince him that the mountain was sacred he would need to see evidence of shrines and that he would not accept Apache oral history or statements by Apache-speaking Euro-American anthropologists. For the Apache in Arizona, one of these sacred places is Mount Graham: this place is called Dzil Nchaa Si An (Big Seated Mountain) and is mentioned in 32 of the sacred songs . BTW, I am still waiting for you to point me to that curved water. The theory that the character Lucifer is Hasatan has been a popular one in Christianity dating as far back as the 4th century. of the Morning! VATT, 2012.
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